1 00:00:01,930 --> 00:00:24,720 [Music] 2 00:00:24,730 --> 00:00:31,589 [Applause] 3 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:34,670 I assume that's yes okay uh so I'm gonna 4 00:00:39,389 --> 00:00:37,760 have a few minutes of remarks and then 5 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:39,399 uh there'll be certainly time for 6 00:00:43,229 --> 00:00:41,360 question and answer after my my couple 7 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:43,239 minutes I know I'm between you and I 8 00:00:47,869 --> 00:00:45,680 assume a wonderful dinner so I 9 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:47,879 understand uh I'm the last guy between 10 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:50,000 you and that so I will try to keep it 11 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:53,840 brief and then open it up for 12 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:56,199 questions so ladies and gentlemen uh 13 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:58,239 thank you for joining me today uh here 14 00:01:03,150 --> 00:00:59,920 at the first annual Soul found 15 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:03,160 Foundation conference um hoping that you 16 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:05,920 took a lot away uh from these last two 17 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:08,240 days uh and we're here to discuss a 18 00:01:11,230 --> 00:01:10,280 matter you know of great significance 19 00:01:13,109 --> 00:01:11,240 government 20 00:01:16,510 --> 00:01:13,119 transparency regarding you know 21 00:01:20,109 --> 00:01:16,520 unidentified anomalous phenomena or 22 00:01:22,190 --> 00:01:20,119 UAP the veil of secrecy surrounding the 23 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:22,200 this subject you know has captured our 24 00:01:27,550 --> 00:01:25,280 Collective curiosity far too long and 25 00:01:30,749 --> 00:01:27,560 it's time for profound 26 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:30,759 change in a world where information is 27 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:33,680 power uh the transparency of our 28 00:01:38,950 --> 00:01:35,680 government and its allies you know holds 29 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:38,960 the key to unlocking these truths uh 30 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:43,600 that lie beyond our current public 31 00:01:48,990 --> 00:01:46,000 understanding imagine a future where we 32 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:49,000 no longer need to speculate about our 33 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:50,680 place in the 34 00:01:56,749 --> 00:01:53,200 cosmos where the shadows of uncertainty 35 00:01:59,190 --> 00:01:56,759 are dispelled by uh the light of 36 00:02:01,630 --> 00:01:59,200 disclosure the impact of revealing you 37 00:02:03,630 --> 00:02:01,640 you know information on UAP crash 38 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:03,640 retrievals and Associated activities 39 00:02:08,029 --> 00:02:06,479 would be nothing short of revolutionary 40 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:08,039 and I assume all of us you know can 41 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:09,679 agree to that 42 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:13,680 point first and foremost embracing 43 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:16,480 transparency on UAP matters is an 44 00:02:20,910 --> 00:02:20,040 affirmation to our commitment the truth 45 00:02:24,990 --> 00:02:20,920 uh and 46 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:25,000 openness it's a declaration that we as a 47 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:27,280 society are ready to confront the 48 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:30,080 unknown and unravel the Mysteries that 49 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:33,519 have perple us perplexed us for 50 00:02:39,390 --> 00:02:36,640 decades this willingness to confront the 51 00:02:42,430 --> 00:02:39,400 Enigma not only builds trust between the 52 00:02:46,990 --> 00:02:42,440 government and its citizens but also 53 00:02:48,670 --> 00:02:47,000 sets a precedent for a new era of 54 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:48,680 accountability the release of 55 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:50,959 information on non-human intelligences 56 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:54,040 has the potential to unite Humanity in a 57 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:55,920 shared quest for 58 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:57,920 understanding regardless of the 59 00:03:02,589 --> 00:03:00,720 ontological shock 60 00:03:03,670 --> 00:03:02,599 no longer bound by the limitations of 61 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:03,680 national 62 00:03:09,630 --> 00:03:06,280 borders we would embark on a collective 63 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:09,640 journey of Discovery transcending 64 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:12,159 political distances or differences and 65 00:03:19,630 --> 00:03:15,080 fostering a sense of global 66 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:19,640 Unity the realization that we are not 67 00:03:25,149 --> 00:03:23,200 alone in this vast Universe could serve 68 00:03:26,350 --> 00:03:25,159 as a powerful catalysts for 69 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:26,360 international 70 00:03:33,789 --> 00:03:30,400 cooperation reminding us of our share 71 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:33,799 Destiny as inhabitants and stewards of 72 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:34,799 the 73 00:03:44,869 --> 00:03:42,480 advancements that could stem from broad 74 00:03:47,070 --> 00:03:44,879 study the integration of this kind of 75 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:47,080 Technology into our scientific knowledge 76 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:49,280 could Propel us to the future with 77 00:03:55,630 --> 00:03:52,200 unprecedented Innovation shaping 78 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:55,640 Industries improving our quality of love 79 00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:57,480 it's not just about knowing it's about 80 00:04:03,550 --> 00:04:00,480 the potential to revolutionize our 81 00:04:07,949 --> 00:04:03,560 understanding of physics biology and 82 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:10,949 Sciences releasing this information in a 83 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:13,680 controlled planned manner such as Carl 84 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:16,799 Nell has discussed during the conference 85 00:04:22,030 --> 00:04:18,720 as with the Schumer 86 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:22,040 amendment has profound implications on 87 00:04:26,590 --> 00:04:24,560 our philosoph philosophical and 88 00:04:28,590 --> 00:04:26,600 spiritual perspectives the 89 00:04:32,430 --> 00:04:28,600 acknowledgement of other worldly 90 00:04:34,909 --> 00:04:32,440 intelligences ches our very concept of 91 00:04:39,629 --> 00:04:34,919 existence encouraging us to reconsider 92 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:39,639 our place in the grand tapestry of the 93 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:42,120 universe it's an important and profound 94 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:44,320 introspection and a catalyst for a new 95 00:04:54,909 --> 00:04:51,070 Awakening you know in 96 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:54,919 conclusion this uh movement ignited in 97 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:55,960 December 98 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:58,880 2017 with Leslie and Ralph's you know 99 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:01,039 famous article the New York 100 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:03,960 Times is not merely a matter of 101 00:05:08,469 --> 00:05:05,680 government 102 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:08,479 transparency uh it's a paradigm shift 103 00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:11,600 that holds the power to reshape our 104 00:05:18,830 --> 00:05:15,080 world by embracing the unknown we open 105 00:05:20,909 --> 00:05:18,840 ourselves to a future where truth unity 106 00:05:23,309 --> 00:05:20,919 and technological 107 00:05:26,029 --> 00:05:23,319 advancements and a deeper understanding 108 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:26,039 of our existence 109 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:28,479 conversion let us advocate for 110 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:30,840 transparency uh not for 111 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:33,680 ourselves but for the generations to 112 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:37,639 come as we embark on a journey toward a 113 00:05:55,390 --> 00:05:41,039 more enlightened and interconnected 114 00:06:01,990 --> 00:05:59,900 you who who dares to ask the first 115 00:06:12,909 --> 00:06:02,000 [Music] 116 00:06:18,430 --> 00:06:16,070 up hi Dave um I was wondering if you 117 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:18,440 could comment on how far you think the 118 00:06:23,870 --> 00:06:21,440 United States or indeed other countries 119 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:23,880 have got with the reverse engineering 120 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:26,280 program and have we got to fly these 121 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:28,400 machines are they 122 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:31,120 flyable 123 00:06:34,950 --> 00:06:32,639 I'm getting a little bit of double 124 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:34,960 feedback do I need to mute my mic to 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,150 clearly I ask a question again 126 00:06:52,270 --> 00:06:49,990 pleas I need to mute my mic let me know 127 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:52,280 I was just getting like a 128 00:06:55,230 --> 00:06:54,360 Reverb let me know if you had should I 129 00:06:59,390 --> 00:06:55,240 ask it 130 00:07:00,990 --> 00:06:59,400 again oh that sounds better okay okay um 131 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:01,000 I was wondering D if you could comment 132 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,759 on how far the United States has got or 133 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,160 indeed other countries in the reverse 134 00:07:13,950 --> 00:07:09,360 engineering program and whether we manag 135 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:17,830 viable yeah a lot of that I can't answer 136 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:20,800 publicly that you know a lot of it has 137 00:07:26,189 --> 00:07:23,360 been integrated in another us uh 138 00:07:28,309 --> 00:07:26,199 conventional pass by 139 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:28,319 program 140 00:07:40,070 --> 00:07:36,350 thank you David for everything you've 141 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,080 done um I'm curious to know why you did 142 00:07:44,909 --> 00:07:42,240 what you did in coming forward and 143 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,919 putting yourself up above the parit and 144 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:47,199 becoming a Target it's incredi be brave 145 00:07:54,350 --> 00:07:52,029 inspiring yeah I mean I did a lot of 146 00:07:56,670 --> 00:07:54,360 introspection and reflection to make the 147 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:56,680 decision to come forward you know part 148 00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:59,360 of my uh looking into this subject and 149 00:08:03,309 --> 00:08:01,199 you know reporting my findings to the 150 00:08:05,430 --> 00:08:03,319 Inspector General you know I look back 151 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:05,440 at my you know I Serv 14 years in the 152 00:08:09,950 --> 00:08:07,759 Air Force I looked at two my core value 153 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:09,960 the Air Force exposes you know Integrity 154 00:08:16,189 --> 00:08:13,000 for service for steal and that been all 155 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:16,199 we do and that may sound you know many 156 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:19,759 but I really believe in that that's when 157 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:24,360 I was College 18 years ago I didn't want 158 00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:27,759 toide um living those core values I did 159 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:32,560 not want to look back 30 years from now 160 00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:35,279 when I'm an older man a life of regret 161 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,240 and I did not want 162 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:39,599 to feel that oh I could have done 163 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:41,599 something when I was you know still in 164 00:08:44,710 --> 00:08:43,240 the government said I should have said 165 00:08:47,630 --> 00:08:44,720 something when this topic became 166 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:47,640 normalized and the momentum was that 167 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:50,399 Congress you know interested in it and I 168 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:53,000 saw what was happening behind the scenes 169 00:08:58,310 --> 00:08:56,160 you the Preparatory movement uh for CH 170 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:58,320 Scher to propose this legislation you 171 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:00,240 know I was aware of it many months 172 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:02,560 before it was going to get released I'll 173 00:09:08,110 --> 00:09:05,040 just say that and I realized if I wanted 174 00:09:10,670 --> 00:09:08,120 to make a move that I would be probably 175 00:09:12,829 --> 00:09:10,680 proud of making you know 30 years from 176 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,839 now it was probably the right time there 177 00:09:17,630 --> 00:09:14,800 was a combination of external factors 178 00:09:19,509 --> 00:09:17,640 that was happening with the subject and 179 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:19,519 you know supportive public populace 180 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:22,399 which I was paying attention to um you 181 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:23,839 know when I was still in government and 182 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:26,240 it kind of just allowed me to self 183 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,399 actualize in a way that I you know felt 184 00:09:40,829 --> 00:09:31,440 that it was you know selfless service 185 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:43,990 you Hi D thanks for uh for joining us 186 00:09:48,269 --> 00:09:46,200 and thank you you know generally for for 187 00:09:50,430 --> 00:09:48,279 for your active service for coming 188 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:50,440 forward on this issue um this weekend 189 00:09:55,949 --> 00:09:52,640 has really broadened my perspective I 190 00:09:58,030 --> 00:09:55,959 would say um in terms of what I I think 191 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,040 might be going on and and some of that 192 00:10:01,389 --> 00:10:00,000 is you know diversity of you you can 193 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:01,399 think about it from a nuts and bolts 194 00:10:09,310 --> 00:10:04,240 perspective of vehicular types or 195 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:09,320 behaviors um you know um uh orbs versus 196 00:10:13,150 --> 00:10:11,279 Tic Tacs versus discs but also that 197 00:10:16,590 --> 00:10:13,160 there seems to be some pretty 198 00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:16,600 fundamentally sort of diverse um nature 199 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:19,360 of maybe behaviors or interactions so 200 00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:21,920 can you I I don't know fill this in to 201 00:10:24,990 --> 00:10:23,120 the extent that you can and I know 202 00:10:28,150 --> 00:10:25,000 you're limited in what you can say but 203 00:10:29,949 --> 00:10:28,160 to what extent do you see that in your 204 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:29,959 experience the people you talk to is 205 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:32,480 that a fundamental aspect of this that 206 00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:34,560 there's there's lots of things going on 207 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:35,760 whether we think of them as different 208 00:10:40,910 --> 00:10:37,800 species or different different types of 209 00:10:43,790 --> 00:10:40,920 nhi can can you comment on that yeah 210 00:10:46,509 --> 00:10:43,800 certainly this phenomenon is is not a 211 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:46,519 you know a singular type Source Etc I 212 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:48,800 mean many of the people I talked to that 213 00:10:52,910 --> 00:10:50,760 you know were actively working on the 214 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:52,920 program did use the term 215 00:10:58,430 --> 00:10:55,839 extraterrestrial when uh briefing myself 216 00:11:00,910 --> 00:10:58,440 and my my colleagues you know on their 217 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:00,920 activity and kind of you know that's the 218 00:11:06,670 --> 00:11:04,120 par they used within the the program but 219 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:06,680 certainly I'm skeptical of that being 220 00:11:10,990 --> 00:11:09,040 the the only origin and that's why I'm 221 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:11,000 I'm happy that non-human intelligence 222 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:13,160 has been viewed in the Schumer Amendment 223 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:16,480 because um I mean how do you determine 224 00:11:21,949 --> 00:11:18,680 origin you know do you believe the 225 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:21,959 origin because uh your world use says 226 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:23,760 anything that doesn't look homo saan 227 00:11:28,509 --> 00:11:27,120 must come from elsewhere so I'm uh you 228 00:11:30,590 --> 00:11:28,519 know I'm familiar with obviously the 229 00:11:33,389 --> 00:11:30,600 work J LA and others have done and I 230 00:11:36,350 --> 00:11:33,399 think certainly many of many scholars 231 00:11:38,190 --> 00:11:36,360 will probably uh you know back me up on 232 00:11:41,629 --> 00:11:38,200 this where I think there's you this 233 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:41,639 non-coral phenomenon who knows what that 234 00:11:47,310 --> 00:11:45,240 is uh you know just like as jacqu B has 235 00:11:50,030 --> 00:11:47,320 mentioned in past for Magonia right it 236 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:50,040 could be interdimensional 237 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:52,040 multi-dimensional because the phenomenon 238 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:53,920 shows itself in different forms over the 239 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:56,160 years from Antiquity you know with of 240 00:12:01,670 --> 00:11:59,200 sitting on chest which maybe was the 241 00:12:04,910 --> 00:12:01,680 tour of the modern abduction phenomenon 242 00:12:07,230 --> 00:12:04,920 potentially so uh I don't think the US 243 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:07,240 government has a handle on all the 244 00:12:12,990 --> 00:12:09,519 different types of you know origin of 245 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:13,000 this phenomenon that become the by by do 246 00:12:17,629 --> 00:12:15,440 I mean certainly the term you know have 247 00:12:20,350 --> 00:12:17,639 been used behind doors with me but I 248 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:20,360 just I'm a little skeptical that that is 249 00:12:27,230 --> 00:12:22,240 the total 250 00:12:31,629 --> 00:12:30,110 Gen good evening first off thank you for 251 00:12:33,150 --> 00:12:31,639 your service the United States Air Force 252 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:33,160 and thank you for everything uh you've 253 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:35,480 done to get us to this point um my 254 00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:37,120 question is uh in the context of 255 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:38,440 hopefully the passage of the Schumer 256 00:12:42,910 --> 00:12:41,279 Amendment uh have and a a more open 257 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:42,920 conversation in government and public 258 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:45,519 policy about UAP technology have you or 259 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:47,920 the uh Foundation given any thought to 260 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:50,360 uh endorsing or advocating for uh like a 261 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,040 UAP weapons test band treaty or 262 00:12:58,030 --> 00:12:55,680 weaponization uh Ban Treaty to prevent 263 00:13:00,030 --> 00:12:58,040 uh the use of you know uh effectively 264 00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:00,040 Next Generation Ms in the military 265 00:13:03,990 --> 00:13:01,600 station of the 266 00:13:07,389 --> 00:13:04,000 technology no that's actually a very 267 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:07,399 interesting idea that I think is worth 268 00:13:12,430 --> 00:13:09,800 exploring I mean 269 00:13:13,949 --> 00:13:12,440 certainly uh I mean in terms of space 270 00:13:16,829 --> 00:13:13,959 policy you know there's like outer space 271 00:13:20,110 --> 00:13:16,839 security 7 and some of the other asso 3s 272 00:13:23,110 --> 00:13:20,120 and 7s up to talk about how we um you 273 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:23,120 know claim selector bodies for our own 274 00:13:26,829 --> 00:13:24,720 which actually 3 says you're not 275 00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:26,839 supposed to like you're not us is not 276 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:29,360 supposed to caim you the Moon itself as 277 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:31,920 a sere territory and it's a maritime law 278 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:34,000 law SE that kind of applies to the space 279 00:13:39,629 --> 00:13:37,600 so I mean besid that and some of the 280 00:13:42,829 --> 00:13:39,639 conventional analoges in term of test 281 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:42,839 band 3DS start you know you know a one 282 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:44,880 and two that kind of thing that's 283 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:46,560 actually a very interesting idea to 284 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:48,880 explore and I'll actually take note of 285 00:13:58,749 --> 00:13:57,310 actually thank you for being here today 286 00:14:01,069 --> 00:13:58,759 I'm so sorry that you've been threat 287 00:14:02,910 --> 00:14:01,079 threatened for standing up in this topic 288 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:02,920 and I was wondering what should we be 289 00:14:08,509 --> 00:14:04,920 doing as UFO researchers to protect 290 00:14:13,949 --> 00:14:12,069 families uh we certainly following along 291 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:13,959 so that's why you know I'm 292 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,720 very careful what I say you know 293 00:14:21,749 --> 00:14:19,040 anything specific I want to say I do run 294 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:21,759 it for publication Security review 295 00:14:25,470 --> 00:14:23,240 anybody who's had a top speaker 296 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:25,480 clearance has been officer has to go 297 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:29,199 through the same same brought up and uh 298 00:14:33,749 --> 00:14:31,320 you know I've always advocated for with 299 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:33,759 theing in a legal manner uh you know 300 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:36,079 somebody's in the audience or has 301 00:14:40,829 --> 00:14:38,360 knowledge about these 302 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:40,839 programs uh established procedures 303 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:43,920 through you know the Inspector General 304 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:46,079 through the Aro office as well at 305 00:14:50,749 --> 00:14:47,440 relates to 306 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:50,759 UAP um yeah in terms of ethic protection 307 00:14:54,430 --> 00:14:52,000 for private 308 00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:54,440 citizens I mean 309 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,720 besid uh you know understanding how to 310 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,560 properly conduct research in a legal and 311 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:01,920 ethical manner I guess that's only thing 312 00:15:13,949 --> 00:15:11,030 yeah hi uh my question's pretty brief uh 313 00:15:15,710 --> 00:15:13,959 it's two two parts um why do you think 314 00:15:18,670 --> 00:15:15,720 this is happening now and what do you 315 00:15:20,590 --> 00:15:18,680 think are the best next steps for the 316 00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:20,600 community to 317 00:15:25,069 --> 00:15:23,199 do yeah I mean why it's happening now I 318 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:25,079 think it's just the culmination of of 319 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:27,120 the energy that you know people who kind 320 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:30,040 of fell in my fo steps you know you know 321 00:15:33,910 --> 00:15:31,120 call 322 00:15:37,550 --> 00:15:33,920 it that kind of thing and the energy 323 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:37,560 that was created in 2017 and some of the 324 00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:39,199 effective Congressional 325 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:41,639 engagements to you know show how this is 326 00:15:47,710 --> 00:15:44,800 a potential National Security thre Vis 327 00:15:52,350 --> 00:15:47,720 just to call or the public and there's 328 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:52,360 been a a good uh public engagements with 329 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:54,560 the different kind of different Medias 330 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:57,199 whether YouTube History Channel whatnot 331 00:16:04,309 --> 00:16:01,120 I think that's uh created that kind of 332 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:04,319 interest in desig mization and next 333 00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:06,839 steps I mean certainly we don't want to 334 00:16:10,309 --> 00:16:08,639 rely on the government for everything 335 00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:10,319 but the humaner amendment and also some 336 00:16:14,990 --> 00:16:11,800 of the provisions in the Intel 337 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:15,000 authorization act that allows uh the 338 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:17,360 Intel committee defense off fund for 339 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:19,120 special access programs that are not 340 00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:21,720 being reported to Congress is a step in 341 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:23,600 the right direction but this is quite 342 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:25,440 frankly why we have the full 343 00:16:30,069 --> 00:16:27,720 foundation and you know certainly other 344 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:30,079 5501 like Ryan 345 00:16:38,509 --> 00:16:34,440 Graves um Foundation as well is we need 346 00:16:40,990 --> 00:16:38,519 to basically create a parallel track of 347 00:16:42,629 --> 00:16:41,000 research and you know independent 348 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:42,639 discovery that aren't necessarily 349 00:16:47,189 --> 00:16:44,800 dependent on the US government provide 350 00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:47,199 us all the answers because ultimately 351 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:48,839 it's up to the chief executive to 352 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:50,720 disclose regardless to what the 353 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:53,279 disclosure panel may come up with in 354 00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,440 terms of a controll disclosure plan we 355 00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:57,440 should put all our eggs in that basket 356 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:01,759 so um creating think tanks foundations 357 00:17:06,829 --> 00:17:03,600 maybe some you know for-profit Venture 358 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:06,839 cap type organizations that look at 359 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,760 Material or things like the Galo project 360 00:17:15,789 --> 00:17:11,760 to do external collection external 361 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:15,799 censing to uh fingerprint the phenomenon 362 00:17:23,230 --> 00:17:17,600 as many different ways as possible 363 00:17:25,549 --> 00:17:23,240 optically radar Etc uh and and broadly 364 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:25,559 and openly discuss it through 365 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:27,839 conferences like this and PW publication 366 00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:29,919 I think is right way there a parallel 367 00:17:35,470 --> 00:17:33,039 track there not to put all the eggs in 368 00:17:40,270 --> 00:17:35,480 one basket you know with the government 369 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:42,990 answers hey David it's so such an honor 370 00:17:47,549 --> 00:17:45,200 to be here with everybody here today and 371 00:17:50,830 --> 00:17:47,559 to speak with you uh this is a historic 372 00:17:52,750 --> 00:17:50,840 meeting I'm just so stoked but uh I have 373 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:52,760 a question for you so five years from 374 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:55,640 now just picture yourself daily life the 375 00:17:59,750 --> 00:17:56,960 Legacy that you've already built in the 376 00:18:02,029 --> 00:17:59,760 last year and and what you ideally would 377 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:02,039 like to see in your own life just moving 378 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:05,320 ahead five years like a whole world but 379 00:18:09,549 --> 00:18:07,200 personal to you as well I'm just curious 380 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:09,559 where you'd like to see 381 00:18:14,350 --> 00:18:12,520 yourself yeah uh certainly I would love 382 00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:14,360 to go back to my private life that would 383 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:16,840 be great not something that I ever 384 00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,520 thought I'd be doing in my life you know 385 00:18:24,029 --> 00:18:20,720 I was on a very good trajectory in my 386 00:18:26,830 --> 00:18:24,039 intell career so I've made an Abrupt dip 387 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:26,840 to the right become a public figure 388 00:18:30,149 --> 00:18:28,600 which you know I take that bir serious 389 00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:30,159 and I want to you know effectively 390 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:33,000 communicate but 391 00:18:37,510 --> 00:18:35,960 personally I would love you know so the 392 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:37,520 panel obviously it's going to go to at 393 00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:38,720 least 394 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:42,760 2030 I would love to work on that as a 395 00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:44,600 staff member not necessarily as a 396 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:46,440 panelist I think there needs to be 397 00:18:50,830 --> 00:18:48,360 luminaries that are the the best 398 00:18:53,710 --> 00:18:50,840 scholars in the in the US to to f you 399 00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:53,720 know be on that panel but certainly if 400 00:18:58,630 --> 00:18:56,120 the current or you know succeeding 401 00:19:00,430 --> 00:18:58,640 administrations would like to bring me 402 00:19:02,149 --> 00:19:00,440 on to support the panel in any way I 403 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:02,159 mean I'll go get coffee just to sit in 404 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:04,120 the room to listen to the discussions 405 00:19:08,630 --> 00:19:06,280 you know out of you know professional 406 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:08,640 intellectual curiosity so I would like 407 00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:11,200 to serve once more um go back to 408 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:13,360 governments what that looks like you 409 00:19:18,710 --> 00:19:16,280 know I'm open to suggestions but 410 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:18,720 certainly if there's any way I can 411 00:19:23,630 --> 00:19:21,200 support the panel even if it's you know 412 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:23,640 through St foundation and maybe not 413 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,280 going back to government service I think 414 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:27,840 it's just so important to help inform 415 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:29,919 and guide those members whoever gets put 416 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:32,000 on that panel you know you know and 417 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:33,440 cross our fingers that the amendment 418 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:36,000 gets passed within the National Pro 419 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:38,200 authorization act here in a month but I 420 00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,960 would just love to serve that way that'd 421 00:19:47,789 --> 00:19:41,919 be 422 00:19:50,029 --> 00:19:47,799 the conference than the things that Dave 423 00:19:54,029 --> 00:19:50,039 has already said so I won't philosophize 424 00:19:55,710 --> 00:19:54,039 any further than that so really on 425 00:19:58,990 --> 00:19:55,720 behalf of Peter do you want to say 426 00:20:01,990 --> 00:19:59,000 anything or no just thank you for being 427 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:02,000 here and Dave thanks for showing up and 428 00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:02,970 giving us the last